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Bush uses veto on stem cell bill

Not something I say very often, but I actually pretty much agree with Bush on this one.

An embryo is a life, no matter how much or how many people's suffering the research would help, it's not right to deny that embryo a chance to live.

Date: 2006-07-20 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com
I assume you're against IVF then?
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Date: 2006-07-20 09:24 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"we agraid to let the unused ones"

Agreed, obviously!

Date: 2006-07-20 12:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hmmm-tea.livejournal.com
Yes (http://hmmm-tea.livejournal.com/81288.html)

Date: 2006-07-20 10:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chess
That presumes the embryo has a chance to live in the first place. If there was some source of embryos which would not have a chance to live (IVF clinics are the obvious example, but stem cells can be collected from all kinds of unlikley already-not-going-to-make-it baby remains, I seem to remember), would you oppose collecting stem cells from them, and why?

Date: 2006-07-20 12:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hmmm-tea.livejournal.com
I've no objection to the actually collection of stem cells. What I take issue with is the creation of embryos without the intention of letting them have a chance of life (including via IVF treatment).

Taking cells from an already-not-going-to-make-it baby doesn't really seem that different to the principle behind donar cards. I carry one, once I'm dead I won't need my organs anymore so someone else may as well make use of them and I suppose the same is true for stem cells in embryos.

The question then arises however as to why they are "already-not-going-to-make-it". Stem cell research shouldn't become be a moral excuse for things like IVF.

Date: 2006-07-20 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capra-maritimus.livejournal.com
It's too bad Bush 'forgot' that you can get stem cells from umbilical cords, too.

but anyway...

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